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Dr. Zakir Naik discovering Muhammad in hindu scriptures

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Actually he is given -

A hundred chains of gold, ten wreaths,
And thrice-a-hundred mettled steeds,

The Sanskrit word Go is derived from Gaw which means ‘to go to war’

Gaw actually means 'hand of God' and is totally unrelated to Go.

This mantra calls the Prophet as Rebh which means one who praises, which when translated into Arabic is Ahmed, which is another name for the Holy Prophet (pbuh).

Rebha means a 'talkative, celbratory' person which the prophet certainly was but hey - so are many other people!

Debunking the Atharva Veda Connection...

There exists no such verse in book 20, Hymn 21 so the meaning stands null and void.

But anyway, some errors are -

Karo in actuality means 'the one who', no action is specified and the word is often found clubbed such as karotumme.

The 10,000 opponents mentioned in the Mantra were the enemies of the Prophet and the Muslims were only 3000 in number.

What? We were just talking of 10,000 'cow-like' followers.

Actually, the entire mantra refers to how Indra single-handedly destroyed the opponents.

The enemies’ defeat in the conquest of Makkah is supposedly mentioned in Atharvaveda book 20 Hymn 21 verse no 9:

There were 20 chiefs in total and the population of Makkah was about 60,000

And so? Anyway, the total amount if you take into account that each tribe had 1 leader is 14-16.

An Abandhu meaning a helpless man who was far-famed and ‘praised one’. Muhammad (pbuh) overcame his enemies with the help of God.

Abandhu actually means one with no connections or relations.

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Debunking the Rig Veda Connection

A similar prophecy is also found in Rigveda Book I, Hymn 53 verse 9:

The Sanskrit word used is Sushrama, which means praiseworthy or well praised which in Arabic means Muhammad (pbuh).

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rvsan/rv10053.htm

Sushrama? Nowhere.

The line in the RV (60,099 men etc.) is copied into the AV.

Debunking the Sama Veda Connection

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is also prophesised in the Samveda Book II Hymn 6 verse 8:

"Ahmed acquired from his Lord the knowledge of eternal law. I received light from him just as from the sun." The Prophecy confirms:

The name of the Prophet as Ahmed since Ahmed is an Arabic name. Many translators misunderstood it to be Ahm at hi and translated the mantra as "I alone have acquired the real wisdom of my father".

Prophet was given eternal law, i.e. the Shariah.

The Rishi was enlightened by the Shariah of Prophet Muhammad. The Qur’an says in Surah Saba chapter 34 verse 28

"We have not sent thee but as a universal (Messenger) to men, giving them glad tidings and warning them (against sin), but most men understand not." [Al-Qur'an 34:28]

As I was unable to obtain a Devanagiri-font book from the net I'll have to stay content with examining the context in which it is said.

The verse -

1. Indra whose jaws are strong hath drunk of worshipping Sudaksha's draught,
The Soma juice with barley brew.
2. O Lord of ample wealth, these songs of praise have called aloud to thee,
Like milch-kine lowing to their calves!
3. Then straight they recognized the mystic name of the creative Steer,
There in the mansion of the Moon.
4. When Indra, strongest hero, brought the streams, the mighty waters down,
Pushan was standing by his side.
5. The Cow, the streaming mother of the liberal Maruts, pours her milk,
Harnessed to draw their chariots on.
6. Come, Lord of rapturous joys, to our libation with thy bay steeds, come
With bay steeds to the flowing juice
7. Presented strengthening gifts have sent Indra away at sacrifice,
With night, unto the cleansing bath.
8. I from my Father have received deep knowledge of eternal Law:
I was born like unto the Sun.
9. With Indra splendid feasts be ours, rich in all strengthening things, wherewith,
Wealthy in food, we may rejoice
10. Soma and Pushan, kind to him who travels to the Gods, provide
Dwellings all happy and secure.

See Above Verse

Explanation -

Only a dumb nitpicker such as Joker could possibly derive any 'prophecy' mileage out of this.

Understand the verse. In this, Indra is strengthened with Soma sacrifice and the Priests cry out for Indra's arrival. The Priests recognize the name of the creative Seer - the personification Soma, there in the mansion of the moon - which in Vedic symbolism, resembles a drop of Soma. Next, Indra's legendary battle with Virirta the dragon who holds back the waters of the Earth is reflected and it is seen how Indra brings the streams towards Earth with Pushan by his side. The description of a cow pouring forth her milk is also given and is thought akin to Indras action. Then, the priests once again call to Indra as the lord of joy to give his strengthening gifts to the Soma and Indra doing so, fades away. The Priests partake in the Soma and receive knowledge of the eternal law - the law that governs nature (no Law in the 'Jurisdiction' sense) and share a feeling of warmth as if they were born unto the Sun. Once again, the Soma is praised for its strengthening qualities. Soma the personification and Pushan thus travel to the Gods.

Soma is a non-intoxicant juice from a certain vine that is burnt in Vedic rituals and the leftover remenants eaten - not done anymore because nobody knows what the Soma plant is (presumed extinct). The Soma plant is renown for its strengthening properties and is drunk before war. Indra is a deity especially fond of Soma.

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Conclusion for Sama Veda Verse -

There is no place for any Ahmed in this verse either storywise or literarywise. Adding 'Ahmed' here is saying the grammatically incorrect (the Veda is gramatically perfect) - 'Ahmed have recieved'. And besides, it is akin to saying Mohammed himself did the ritual to Indras glory, partook in the leftovers and knew the Sharia - which is once again akin to idolatory. The phrase 'I from my father' seems second most likely (t refers to the Priests recieving knowledge from 'Soma' about the Eternal Law) but the most likely seems to be Aham + Atha. It would translate the sentence to - I now have received the eternal law. Other likely possibilties include Aham + Athaha, Aham + Ita and Aham + Hita.

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Note: ZAKIR NAIK (red) ARYA (blue)

(Atharva Veda-Kanda:20-127:70:1-3)

Oh people! Listen carefully!! Honorable(Muhammad meaning Honorable in Arabic)
man will arrive among people. I will accept him among 60090 enemies. His means of
movement will be 20 Camels both male and female. His glory and superiority(Status) will reach there to heaven and will overcome it.He will be given 10 circles(Governors/assistants) 100gold coins(100Migrated people from Makkah to Ethiopia) and 300(300 People fought in Badar) Arabian horses. And 10000(10000 People who witnessed Makkah Success)Cows, for Mama Muni(Mama sage).

now read the right translation!!

atharva veda HYMN CXXVII
A hymn in praise of the good Government of King Kaurama

1Listen to this, ye men, a laud of glorious bounty shall be sung. Thousands sixty, and ninety we, O Kaurama, among the Rusamas have received.

2Camels twice-ten that draw the car, with females by their side,
he gave. Fain would the chariot's top bow down escaping from the stroke
of heaven.

3A hundred chains of gold, ten wreaths, upon thee Rishi he
bestowed, And thrice-a-hundred mettled steeds, ten-times-a-thousand cows
he gave.

now lets compare it with lier naik's translation!!

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DR LIER NAIK

Oh people! Listen carefully!! Honorable(Muhammad meaning Honorable in Arabic)
man will arrive among people.

TRUE TRANSLATION.

Listen to this, ye men, a laud of glorious bounty shall be sung.

wel, the hyms mere says, a glorious bounty shall be sung, it doesnt mentions any arrival of honarable, this mere lies of DA ZAKIR NAIK!!

DR LIER NAIK

I will accept him among 60090 enemies. His means of
movement will be 20 Camels both male and female.

TRUE TRANSLATION!

Thousands sixty, and ninety we, O Kaurama, among the
Rusamas have received.
2Camels twice-ten that draw the car, with females by their side,
he gave

wel, the verse doesnt talk bout any enemies, it says RUSAMAS have recieved 66090

and bout a chariot drawn by 20 camels, with females by their side,

seems ZAKIR NAIK embaresed to say, females by side of muhammad, so he translates the females into CAMEL!! ;)

dr lier naik!

His glory and superiority(Status) will reach there to heaven and will overcome it.

true translation!

Fain would the chariot's top bow down escaping from the stroke
of heaven.

wel, its the chariot , which suppose to escape the stroke of heaven, rather than any-body's glory-superiority!

weird imagination of DR LIER NAIK!

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DR LIER NAIK

He will be given 10 circles(Governors/assistants) 100gold coins(100Migrated people from Makkah to Ethiopia) and 300(300 People fought in Badar) Arabian horses. And 10000(10000 People who witnessed Makkah Success)Cows, for Mama Muni(Mama sage).

true translation.

A hundred chains of gold, ten wreaths, upon thee Rishi he
bestowed,
And thrice-a-hundred mettled steeds, ten-times-a-thousand cows
he gave.

wel, i need not xplain it!

readerz can compehend, how desperatly ZAKIR NAIK tried to prove by insertin islamic history, ARABIAN HORSE, BADR-BATTLE as wel!!

wtf!!!

now ZAKIR NAIK, presents the ultimate proof, that tis indeed bout muhammad :

No doubt it is related to prophet Muhamad(SAV)Because Vedic Time it is prohibited that sages using any horses or camels.
Anir dushaya go:kshira ,
Moushtra maikashapam tadha(Manu Smrithi5:8)
Says Maharshis (Indian Sages) using four legged animal as vehicle is prohibited

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zakir naik says, manu smriti prohibits maharishiz to use 4 legged animals as a vehicle!

while no hindu gives a damn thing to manu smirti, anyways lets c , what the verse 5.8 says :

manusmirthi 5:

8. The milk of a cow (or other female animal) within ten days after her calving, that of camels, of one-hoofed animals, of sheep, of a cow in heat, or of one that has no calf with her,

9. (The milk) of all wild animals excepting buffalo-cows, that of women, and all (substances turned) sour must be avoided.

wel, ppl! it aint bout prohibition of any vehicle, tis says: sour milk should be avoided

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Muhammad in Hinduism?

Do vedas Realy tell about Muhammad?

(The Vedas are the oldest scriptures of Hinduism. They date back to around 4000BC approximately or even older. They are written in an archaic language, so ancient that when Sanskrit as a language was codified ordinary people had already started forgetting the meanings of the verses. The great pundits of the time therefore started to write commentaries and grammar books on them. Even today, it is not possible to translate the verses without these texts. However today's scholars also have the help of comparing them with other languages.)

Dr.Zakir Naik and Dr.Haq declare that Atharva Veda, Kanda (chapter) 20, Mantras 126-137 prefigures about Muhammad. This portion is known as Kuntap sukta. He says that the word Kuntap means to consume sin and misery, and it is composed from Kuh (sin and misery) and tap (to consume). This is not wholly correct. The Gopatha Brahman defines the term as "that which burns away whatever is evil or ugly". However the meaning is close enough. But he goes onto say that the word Kuntap also means "the ‘hidden glands in the abdomen,’ inferring the true meaning to be revealed only to those who are able to develop sufficient insight". It is a pity that he does not give his source for this meaning. But apparently he has developed sufficient insight to read its hidden meaning: that this meaning proves it is actually a reference toMecca which is called navel of the earth by Muslims. Then Dr.Naik and Dr. Haq "shows that the word "Kuntap is derived from Bakkah (Makkah). In the analysis of Sanskrit and Arabic words having the same meaning … , the word ‘b’ in Arabic is used as ‘p’ in Sanskrit (in our times, one example is that of soft drink Pepsi; it is written and pronounced as Bebsi in the Arab world). A certain ‘t’ in Arabic becomes silent and pronounced as h depending on its position in that word … For example, ‘tun’ in Medinatun is replaced by h when pronounced (both t and n are dropped). Further, many Sanskrit words having parallel in Arabic are written backwards … Thus one can see the similarity between the word Kuntap and Bakkah (each containing letters k, n, t, p)".

This once again is absolutely childish, on the same level as Brahma and Abraham. "Kuyang ang nam kutsitang bhavati taddopatti , tasmat [from there] Kuntap" --- the letters k, u, n, t, a, p all come from the Sanskrit words in the definition. (I have used Roman alphabets for the ordinary reader, though the pronunciation is not absolutely accurately transcribed thereby). Also, another term for the Kuntap sukt is left out. It is also called 'Khila-parva' meaning supplement; these verses are taken mostly from the Rig-Veda and are not considered to be of any great importance. Indeed many translations skip this chapter altogether, which no doubt Dr.Naik and Dr. Vidyarthi felt can only help their cause.

(Just to muddy the waters further, a Hindu has argued that the word Mecca comes from the Sanskrit root Makh or Yajna; the name Mohammad is a derivative of Krishna's another name, Madan Mohan and the word Aab (water) comes from the pure Sanskrit word Aap meaning water. We have exactly the same type of argument here that Vidyarthi/Haq gives, except that it is turned upside down: but the latter is equally valid in its methodology as the former. In fact since no analysis is given that can expose its weaknesses, -- only an assertion is made --- the Hindu claim appears more valid!).

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The writers say that the third Mantra of the Kuntap Sukt translated by someone called Pandit Raja Ram is:

"He gave the Mamah Rishi a hundred gold coins, ten chaplets, three hundred steeds and ten thousand cows."

They go onto explain " The root of the word Mamah is Mah which means to esteem highly, honor, revere, to magnify and to exalt. The word "Mohammad" means "the praised one" in Arabic. Therefore, Mamah is synonymous with Mohammad when the full meaning of the verse is considered. The 'd' dropped as in the case of Mamah (Mohammad, which is derived from root letters h, m, and d)". It is a very ingenious explanation. Alas! the only problem is that Mamah is not a single word nor a name. It is a combination of two words 'mamo' and 'ahe', meaning "to me".

Then Dr.Naik and Dr.Haq go on to explain the 'hidden' (!) symbolism in the line. The hundred gold coins apparently refer to the early companions of Prophet Muhammad,. The ten chaplets refer to ten companions of Prophet Muhammad, who were given the good news of Paradise by the Prophet. Three Hundred Good Steeds (horses of Arab Breed) refers to those companions of Prophet Muhammad who fought at ‘Badr.’ We are told that though their actual number was 313, in many prophecies the numbers are usually rounded up. Ten Thousand Cows refer to ten thousand companions who accompanied the Prophet when he conquered Mecca . The interpretation is based on a hadith inSahih Al-Bukhari, Vol. 9, number 159, where Muhammad narrates a dream where cows symbolize the believers. Is there any other evidence to suggest that the hymn is a symbol of anything, far less of the meaning the writers finds? There is not. Also both of them reveal their shoddy Vedic scholarship when they declare "The Sanskrit word Arvah means a swift Arab horse particularly used by Asuras (non-Aryans)". In the Vedas the Asuras are not non-Aryans; gods like Indra and Varuna are addressed as 'Asur' which simply means 'lord'. It was far later that Asuras came to symbolize demons.

They then give their version of the mantras 1 through 13 of the Kuntap Sukt which according to them is amassed from some Hindu Pundits. However the work of Griffith and Whitney are usually considered sufficient :

1. Listen to this O people! a praiseworthy shall be praised. O Kaurama we have received among the Rushamas sixty thousand and ninety. [population of Makkah at the time of Prophet’s triumphant entry in Makkah].

The Rusama is mentioned in RigVeda as a protégé of Indra, and is elsewhere referred to as a community which has nothing to do with Mecca . Kaurama is the alternative name for Kaurava, a generous donor in the community.

2. Twenty camels draw his carriage, with him being also his wives. The top of that carriage or chariot bows down escaping from touching the heaven.

The accepted wording Whose twice ten buffaloes move right along, together with their cows; the height of his chariot just misses the heaven which recedes from its touch. You can find an accurate and famous translation of Vedas here . I have never heard of camels being used by INDIANS in Vedic Times, nor can you make notice of camels in any of Hindu Scriptures.

3. He gave the Mamah Rishi a hundred gold coins, ten chaplets, three hundred steeds and ten thousand cows.

As noted earlier it is not the Mamah rishi, but simply rishi.

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4. Disseminate the truth, O ye who glorifies [Ahmad], disseminate the truth, just as a bird sings on a ripe fruited tree. Thy lips and tongue move swiftly like the sharp blade of a pair of shears. [The Prophet’s state when he received revelation through Archangel Jibril (Gabriel)].

Again, the standard translation is "Glut thee o singer, glut thee, like a bird on a ripefruited tree".However, the term 'narasansha' which is translated as singer, can also mean someone who praises. Someone who praises is not praiseworthy. Narasansha doesn’t equate to Muhammad. Apparently this version is relied on, so that it can be equated with Ahmad.

5. The praying ones with their prayers hurry on like powerful bulls. Only their children are at home, and at home do they wait for the cows. [Cows refers to companions of the Prophet. Prophet’s companions strict adherence to five daily prayers at appointed times. Refers to Battles of Badr, Uhud, and Ahzab (Ditch or Allies)].

The actual translation is”The chanters with their pious song hurry on blithely as cows; at home are their children, and at home the cows do they attend”.

6. O you who praises (the Lord), hold fast the wisdom, which earns cows and good things. Disseminate this among the divines, just as an archer places his shaft on the right point. [wisdom of the Qur’an].

Again, here the standard translation is "O singer bring thou forth the hymns..." . They say this verse in wisdom of Qur’an. Now if that is the case, Vedas were written several years before the OT,NT and Qur’an. Then why don’t muslims read Vedas instead? Look how the translation has been played with and changed to their convenience.

7. Sing the high praise of the king of the world or the Light of the Universe, who is a god and the best among men. He is a guide to all people and gives shelter to everyone. [Prophet Mohammed's qualities].

The standard translation is, "Sing the praise of Pariksit, the sovereign whom all people love, the king who ruleth over all, excelling mortals as a god". The name Parik**** is definitely mentioned. Parik**** is the name of a king of the Kaurava line, though it cannot be ascertained whether this is the same king mentioned in Mahabharata. However, this name is left out. Apparently even the writer's imagination has a hard time trying to prove that Parik**** is another name for Muhammad.

8. He who affords shelter to everybody, gave peace to the world, as soon as he mounted the throne. Men in Kuru-land are talking of his peace-making at the time of the building of the house. [Kuru means one who protects a house in Hebrew and Kore means a house. It refers to the first house of worship, the Ka’bah. In this sense, Kuru-land means the land of Koreish . This Mantra refers to the rebuilding of the Kabah five years before Mohammed's prophethood and his role in peace-making when each tribe of the Koreish (Quraish) wanted the sole honor to put the Black Stone at its right place and disputed to the point of threats to fight each other. The Black Stone is a celestial material and is the only remaining part of the original building material of the Ka'bah].

Standard translation: "Mounting his throne Parik**** best of all hath given us peace and rest, saith a Kaurava to his wife as he is ordering his house". A Kaurava is a member of the Kuru clan, descended from Kuru, whatever may be its meaning in Hebrew. Also why are the specific terms husband (pati) and wife (jaya) left out? I am sure the writer could have found some hidden significance in them as well, if only he had worked hard.

9. In the realm of the King, who gives peace and protection to all, a wife asks her husband whether she should set before him curd or some other liquor. [Due to Prophet’s protection and commandments, women could travel freely long distances without any escort or fear].

Really? Do you see any correlation between the words in the actual verses and the meaning these two muslims try to give it? Above all, liqour is mentioned. I have never heard of any men drinking liqour when Muhammad lived, as he prohibited liqour.

10. The ripe barley springs up from the cleft and rises towards heavens. The people prosper in the reign of the king who gives protection to all. [people rise from the depth of degradation to the height of glory].

From what degradation did Muhammad lift up the arabs? He said sex outside marriage is bad. Well, that was indeed older in INDIA ! Everyone followed it and believed it and forbid pre-marital sex. Instead Muhammad set a great example(not exception because muslims repeat it) by marrying a kid. Is that degrading or glorifying?

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11. Indra awoke the singer of his praises and asked him to go to the people in every direction. He was asked to glorify Indra, the mighty and all pious men would appreciate his effort and God would bestow on him His rewards. [The Prophet sent letters to several kings and rulers in every direction inviting them to Islam].

What do Mr.Naik/ Mr.Haq want to tell? They tell Indra = Allah!!!In HinduismIndra is god of weather and war ,and Lord of Heaven or Swargaloka He was also an important figure in non-Hindu traditions. Mythology is that, Indra is also cursed by the supreme power. The supreme power is the only GOD, and INDRA is supposedly a Demi-God. Refer here :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra#The_curse_on_Indra . Well, there is mythology that Indra rode on chariots. Does Allah drive a chariot or BMW?? How ridiculous!Only someone very determined to prove his thesis can find that these verses refer to Islamic history.

12. Cows, horses and men multiply and increase here, because here rules the one who is bountiful and splendidly generous who gives thousands in charity and sacrifice. [qualities of the Last Prophet].

Here another reference to a demi god is left out : "Here, O cattle, ye shall be born, here, ye horses, here, ye domestics! And Pûshan also, who bestows a thousand (cows) as sacrificial reward, settles down here.". Pushan means Muhammad? No way! Pushan is again a demi-God.

13. O Indra, let these cows be safe, and let not their master be harmed. And let not an enemy, O Indra, or a robber overpower them. [Indra refers to God and cows to saintly followers of the Prophet].

The so-called schollars(for dollars??) is not quiet upto the latest researches done by his other Muslim colleagues. They are assiduously writing that Indra as the god of war and leader of Aryans, is the cruel enslaver of the indigenous inhabitants of India and is the first terrorist in the world. They very much contradict each other in their own terms!

As can be seen the writer very carefully leaves out certain words and gives others another meaning than commonly associated with them. However, even that is not enough to turn the verses into predictions about Muhammad. Read in the ordinary manner the verses simply show a picture of a kingdom thriving under a benevolent king; these are simply hymns of praise. He therefore has to take the help of symbolism. The source of his symbolism cannot be found in the Vedas themselves --- he simply imposes them arbitrarily in order to suit his theory. Only the eye of faith can produce such an interpretation of the hymn.

Then these two quote a verse from Sama Veda, II:6,8: "Ahmad acquired religious law (Shariah) from his Lord. This religious law is full of wisdom. I receive light from him just as from the sun." They get the translation almost right with a peculiarly Islamic twist. The proper translation is, "I from my Father have obtained deep knowledge of eternal Law; I was born like unto the Sun". As for 'Ahmad', once again it is a typical example of sleight-of-hand like Mamah. The actual Sanskrit term is 'ahammiddhi' , 'aham' meaning “ I ”.

To clinch the matter, the scholars then quote from Rig Veda V, 27, 1: "The wagon-possessor, the truthful and truth-loving, extremely wise, powerful and generous, Mamah [Mohammad] has favored me with his words. The son of the All-powerful, possessing all good attributes, the mercy for the worlds has become famous with ten thousand [companions]."

However, the standard translation of this verse reads, "The Godlike hero, famousest of nobles, hath granted me two oxen with a wagon. Trvrsan's son Tryaruna hath distinguished himself, Vaisvanara Agni! with ten thousands". "Vaisvanara" is another name for the fire-god, but it is not known with certainty who Trvrsan or his son might be. However, Haq leaves out the reference to the Fire-god. Trvsran becomes another name for Allah (on the grounds perhaps that there is a possibility that the name can refer to a god) while the name Tryaruna is omitted altogether. Instead he once again falls back on the standby of Mamah. Apparently wherever the particular combination of letters forming the word 'mamah', whether alone or whether occurring in combination of other letters in a word, it is employed to prove that it indicates Muhammad. The maximum the verse can be stretched to read is that, "O fire, lord of mankind! the protector of the righteous, extremely wise, lordly (incidentally the term employed here is 'asura') and rich, Trivsran's son Tryaruna has given me two cows yoked to a wagon and ten thousand gold pieces and thus gained fame". The singer of the verse is being favoured not with words of wisdom but with material gifts. One cannot call Haq's translation anything other than a lie. Not surprisingly he leaves the rest of the hymn alone. In it the singer explains that the king had given him these gifts because he had pleased him with his praise and he asks the gods to grant happiness to the donor. Further Dr.Zakir Naik in his site says

Muhammad (pbuh) prophesised in the Rigveda

A similar prophecy is also found in Rigveda Book I, Hymn 53 verse 9:

The Sanskrit word used is Sushrama, which means praiseworthy or well praised which in Arabic means Muhammad (pbuh).

The above specified Hymn and verse translates as : “ With all-outstripping chariot-wheel, O Indra, thou far-famed, hast overthrown the twice ten Kings of men,
With sixty thousand nine-and-ninety followers, who came in arms to fight with friendless Susravas.”

It speaks about Indra, a praise to Indra and not Muhammad!! Dr.Naik Susrava is singular. Susravas = plural. Group of praiseworthy people. So it does not point to Muhammad!

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5. The last premise would be logic. Dr.Naik and Dr.Haq seem to commit several logical fallacies. They tend to contradict each other. They say they don’t believe in HINDU scriptures once. You can find how Zakir Naik criticizes Hindu way of worship in a section called “Conveying Islam To A Hindu”. But still he uses Hindu scriptures’ authority to prove Muhammad’s prophethood and Islam’s validity! Either this proves

*Hindu religion is truly divine.

* Allah did not give enough proofs in Qur’an to sustain his claims.

* All muslims must convert to Hinduism.

* Muslim scholars are bluffing to convert Hindus just like they do to Christian.

Dr.Zakir Naik and Dr.Haq actually commit these logical fallacies : Post hoc ergo propter hoc, Red herring, Petitio principii, Non Sequitur ,Straw man and Tu quoque. Simply no hindus will convert because of such bad marketing skills!! Truth is powerful than any other attractive marketing techniques.

Another claim of Muhammad being Kalki Avatar is also doing rounds. Due to space and time constraint, let me tell you, AVATAR = GOD INCARNATE. Muhammad was a normal arab who did nothing! Kalki Avatar will have 8 superhuman qualities. Muhammad had none. For a more detailed explanation, of why Muhammad cannot be Kalki Avatar can be found here.

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A Point To Ponder Upon

The Vedas are supposed to be most supreme text of Hindus along with the Gita. There are 4 Vedas.

The number of verses in the Rig Veda total 10800

The Number of verses in Atharva Veda total 5987

The Number of verses in Yajur Veda total 2000

The number of verses in Sama Veda total 1875

Therefore, length of Vedas = 10800 + 5987 + 2000 + 1875 = 20662

Length of Qur’an = 6346

Ratio = Length of Vedas / Length of Qur’an = 3.255

The Qur’an is thrice as small as Vedas. When muslim scholars take a lots of time to learn Arabic, memorise Qur’an,read hadiths, do you believe they can learn Sanskrit, or even if not, read such big Vedas, interpret them, and present it? Some people who get money do this, for them, they just vomit whatever they get on hand without giving it a thinking. Imagine, Upanishads, Puranas, Bhagavad gita,etc. when put together will take a lifetime to read and understand them.

I strongly feel, Dr.Ali Sina is of much higher caliber than any of these meek so-called scholars (for dollars??). Ali doesn’t provide stupid data like these people. Hope Hindus now have a clear idea of what this hoax of Muhammad in Hindu scriptures are all about. They are nothing but words on water.

Conclusion

The amount of manipulation and misdirection we see with these men is astonishing. The Islamic propagators are either grossly misled or are apparently relying on the fact that not enough of their readers will know Sanskrit or bother to look up references. They happily mistranslate and use symbolism without any shred of proof. One understands their eagerness to prove that Islam is the culmination of every religion. However one has to wonder, if the faith of the writers like these is so insecure that they have to search in other religions for legitimacy. Also one has to wonder what this says of other Muslim scholars who have read the Vedas before. None of them had ever read any of the meanings that Dr.Naik or Dr.Haq finds; obviously they were either more foolish or less learned than our Dr.Naik/Dr.Haq. However, the climax comes in this assertion: "The Vedas contain many prophecies about Prophet Muhammad. Some European and Hindu translators of the Vedas have removed the name referring to the Prophet, while others have tried to explain away the mantras (verses) on his life events, Ka’bah, Makkah, Medinah, Arabia, and other events using the terminology of the Hindus, such as purification rituals, and lands and rivers in India". In other words, explain what scholars might like, our good Islamic Sanskrit scholar knows that they would be lies. Dr.Naik/Dr.Haq operates under the assumption that anyone who tries to refute them is by the very definition a liar. This assertion is a wonderful way of not having to face the truth. (Of course I personally believe that Haq's book/ Zakir Naik’s Da’wah material is not meant for either the Hindu or the serious scholar; it is targeted at the Muslims to strengthen their faith). Hope I have made it clear to many people, especially Hindus about the lies of Dr.Zakir Naik and Dr.Abdul Haq, of how they write articles,books,da’wah material,etc. just to fool the ignorant Hindus, because most Hindus are not fanatically religious and conaequently they don’t read much of their books. Infact when a Hindu reads this article, he/she will have increased faith in HINDUISM than converting to Islam. Thanks to bad marketing techniques of Dr.Zakir Naik blemished with lies.

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FAKE Shankaracharya speaks about Islam

In an hoax event organized in Delhi on the topic "Misconceptions and it's clarification on Islam" a talk by Dr.Zakir Naik, they hired a Fake 'Shankaracharya' for being the cheif guest speaks on Islam.

Imposter presented as some allegedly "Respected Shankaracharya" and his Views On ISLAM. Hired to speak as instructed - supposedly "Express His View Golden Thoughts On ISLAM".

In an hoax event organized in Delhi on the topic "Misconceptions and it's clarification on Islam" a talk by Dr.Zakir Naik, they hired a Fake 'Shankaracharya' for being the cheif guest speaks on Islam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32t0at0pZow

http://www.ivarta.com/cause/IC11_SCharya.htm

IT Quotes

October 2002: "FAKE" Shankaracharya in USA; Sent back to India

The American Federation of Muslims of India (AFMI) held a reception to honor("FRAUD") Shankaracharya of Puri on October 18 at Hempstead in New York. Also present was the former chief minister of Gujarat and Congress leader Shankarsinh Vaghela, the Indian Consul General Parmetesh Rath and editor of Siasat, Hyderabad, Zahid Ali Khan. AFMI also honored this Swami in different other cities in USA.

We contacted Hinduism Today Magazine, USA. They have their own correspondent at Puri, India. According to them "His Holiness Neeschalanand Saraswati" is the only authorized Shankaracharya of Puri and He has never Visited USA. (The Orissa government officially recognizes Swami Neeschalananda Saraswati as the Shankaracharya of the Puri Govardhan Peeth)

On Oct 27, we received reports of Police Case filed against this "Swami" forinjuring Ashok Dhingra, President-Elect of India Culture Center, Houston

Here are some important News Reports about "Adhokshjananda" that Indians world-over should know about

"Swami Adhokshyananda is a fraud. He is not the Shankaracharya of Puri": Administrator of Gobardhan peetha (Sify 03-16-02)
Is this shankaracharya for real? (Rediff 06-28-00)
He was used by Muslim and Christian organizations (Pioneer/HVK 10-06-02)
"Duplicate" Sankaracharya was ordered to leave Puri (Indian Express 01-24-00)
Swami was arrested along with seven of his disciples (Indian Express 07-19-00)
High Court has debarred him from using the title of "Jagadguru Shankracharaya" (Pioneer/HVK 10-06-02)
He was prohibited from going within the radius of 1,000 meters of the temple. And yet the impostor continues to claim to be Shankracharaya of Puri Peeth (Pioneer/HVK 10-06-02)
Imposter Shankaracharya has attempted to mediate in Kashmir in the past (Rediff 07-06-00)

Pioneer/HVK report says:
“Honble High Court in Orissa unambiguously reaffirmed: "Swami Nischalanand Saraswati was the recognised Jagadguru Shankracharaya of Goverdhan Peetham and as such he has the recognised right of enjoying all legal rights and privileges and status associated with the honoured position of Shankracharaya."

This report also says:
"It is high time that his passport is impounded, criminal cases filed against him are pursued actively and a CBI investigation launched for his possible links with Islamic fundamentalists funded by the ISI"

Here are the related links:

DD in trouble for slip on Puri Shankaracharya
http://headlines.sify.com/681news2.html

Impersonator on the loose
http://www.hvk.org/articles/1002/104.html#top

Is this shankaracharya for real?
http://www.rediff.com/news/2000/jun/28puri1.htm

Rival Shankaracharya arrested
http://www.indianexpress.com/ie/daily/20000718/ina18035.html

Seer laying claim to Puri Peeth arrested
http://www.indian-express.com/ie/daily/20000719/ina19052.html

‘Duplicate' Sankaracharya ordered to leave Puri
http://www.indian-express.com/ie/daily/20000124/ina24021.html

Puri Shankaracharya to expose fake godmen
http://www.rediff.com/news/2000/jul/06khan1.htm

Puri shankaracharya goes on the offensive
http://rediff.com/news/2000/jan/27puri.htm

Shankaracharya is Cong’s weapon for BJP’s Hindutva war
http://indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=8116

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Answers to Questions by Brother Azhar !

Various Muslim websites have published an article concerning the Muhammad in the Hindu Scriptures. According to these articles, Hindus believe that there will be a guide and leader, called the Kalki Avatar who will rise in the last days. Many Hindus believe that the Kalki Avatar will be the 10th incarnation of the Hindu god Vishnu.

The Vishnu Purana (4.24) says:

"When the practices taught by the Vedas and the institutes of law shall nearly have ceased, and the close of the Kali age shall be nigh, a portion of that divine being who exists of his own spiritual nature in the character of Brahma, and who is the beginning and the end, and who comprehends all things, shall descend upon the earth. He will be born as Kalki in the family of an eminent brahmin of Sambhala Isles, endowed with the eight superhuman faculties. By his irresistible might he will destroy all the barbarians and thieves, and all whose minds are devoted to iniquity. He will then reestablish righteousness upon earth; and the minds of those who live at the end of the Kali age shall be awakened, and shall be as pellucid as crystal. The men who are thus changed by virtue of that peculiar time shall be as the seeds of human beings, and shall give birth to a race who shall follow the laws of the Krita age, the Age of Purity. As it is said, "When the sun and moon, and the luner asterism Tishya, and the planet Jupiter, are in one mansion, the Krita age shall return."

Answers to brother AZHAR

NOTE: Azhar(Questions) in blue, Arya(Answers) in green.

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NAME OF KALKI AVTAR
According to Kalki Puran the name of Kalki Avtar will be "SARWANAMA".

The meaning of "ANAMA" is praised one and "SARW" mean most of all, so "Sarwanama" means the most praised one and in Arabic language "Muhammad " has the same meaning, if we translate Sanskrit word Sarwanama in to Arabic language it will be "Muhammad" only difference is the language.

Ahhhh well praised by all !!!!! muhammad isnt praised by all he is hated by many hindus jews and christians, well coming to the meaning it is said he wud be sarwanama he name isnt sarwnama, any how every prophet is sarwnama it imply's in general. so its not name its a quality.

PARENTS OF KALKI AVTAR
"He will be born from "SOOMATI" and his father's name will be "VAISHNUVESH"." (Kalki Puran 2, Shloka II)

VAISHNUVESH and SOOMATI means servant of God (the cherisher) and peace, respectively. Prophet Muhammad father's name was ABDULLAH in Arabic language, which means God's servant, and his mother's name was AMINA in Arabic language, which means peace, so if we translate Sanskrit word "Vaishnuvesh & Soomati" in Arabic language it will be "Abdullah & Amina". So again the difference of language.

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Its vishnu bhagat thats the devotee of vishnu not the servent man
abdullah means servent of god n devotee n servent has a great difference
anima means peace but soomati means (soo= good , mati=mind) thats gud mind how can u relate it with peace. not a difference of language but entirely different name

This is an error in philology. In other words, if the names are literal, then they do not match. A servant of Vishnu would not be equivalent to a servant of Allah, unless one admits that Vishnu is Allah.

PLACE OF BIRTH
"HE will be born at "SHAMBAL GARAM" in VAISHNUVESH'S Brahmin Mahant's (religious saint) respectable house" (Bhagwat Puran, Khand 12, Shloka 18 and Kalki Puran Adhay 2, Shloka 4)

SHAMBAL mean peace and GARAM mean city or village, so SHAMBAL GARAM means a peace full city or city of peace, and this quality & name has been specified only for Arabia's city "MAKKAH" no other city in the world has been named city of peace. In the Holy Quran this city has been called as "ALBALAD ALAMEEN" which mean peace full city or city of peace. For reference see Holy Quran (14:35) O God, make it (Makkah) a City of Peace". And Makkah is the city where prophet Muhammad (PBUH) born.

This is an error in geographical terminology. An isle is an island, Arabia is a peninsula.

The Vishnu Purana clearly says "He will be born as Kalki in the family of an eminent brahmin of Sambhala Isles". Muhammad was not born in Sambhala Isles, he was born in Arabia, and no one has ever claimed that Muhammad came from a Brahmin family. Additionally, is there any objective reason to believe the Quaraysh to be more honorable than other clans?

Any how Of ourse Kalki will be born in “Sambhal” village . Show me the meaning of Sambal== Peace!!! in Sanskrit!!!!

And my village also means village of peace in Sanskrit and I am also born to a respectable family.

Will you bow to me?

BRAHMIN MAHANT mean religious saint and Makkah's religious and respectable saint was "Hasham", then "Mutlib", then Hasham's son "Abdul Mutlib" became the religious saint of Makkah, who was the grand father of prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and during the period of religious saint Muhammad was born in home of Abdullah son of Abdul Mutlib. In short, Muhammad was born in the respectable tribe of Quraish who enjoyed great respect and high place in Makkah. So according to scripture Kalki Avtar will be born in Brahmin Mahant's (religious saint) respectable family.

Brahmin mahant means hindu preist not any mullah of mosque. I don’t think Muslims have brahimns in their caste. Don’t know how can u relate muslims preists with hindu ones.

Or u mean that Abdullah was a hindu!!!!

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DATE OF BIRTH OF KALKI AVTAR
* He will be born in the month of Bisakh on 12th day (Kalki Puran Adhay 2, Shloka 15)

Baisakh is famous month in Hindi, which is still known with this name. According to Hindi calendar Muhammad was born on 12th Baisakh of 628 Bakrami, and this day according to Arabic calendar is 12th Rabiyyyul Awwal. So the date of birth matches with Kalki Avtar.

Arabic calender doesnt match its datses with indian calender u r just fitting facts.Have ever checked the hindu n Arabic calenderThis assumes that Hindus used the same calendar as Muslims. There is also disagreement among Muslims scholars concerning exactly when Muhammad was born. In fact, some Islamic sources claim that Muhammad's birthday (Mawlid) was first celebrated 3 centuries after the death of Muhammad.Kalki is born on 12th day after full moon, he is not born on 12th of Baisakh!!!!!

THE PERIOD OF KALKI AVTAR
Kalki Avtar would ride horse, camel and keep the sword to kill the devil and enemies of religion.

It mean that Kalki Avtar will be born in the past time when horse and camel were used for riding and sword was being used for fight. And in this period and in the coming future people will use cars, train & planes for riding and guns, missiles will be use for fighting. So it is now useless to wait for Avtar in future. We should not forget that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was borne during the time of horse & camel, and he fought with sword during battles against infidels.

Kalki wud ride a horse not a camel n wud use sword that means he wud use old means to show the power of old science. Nearly every hero in the ancient world used swords and horses, therefore, this criteria doesn't point out anyone in particular. However, some Hindus believe that the Kalki Avatar will be a machine-man, who will come to earth on a white horse with a blazing sword in his hands. This future incarnation of Vishnu will appear at the end of Kali Yuga (evil eon) and would solve the problem of Adharma (unrighteousness). He will punish all evil people in this world, destroy the world, and recreate a golden age of peace and harmony. Clearly, Muhammad did none of these things.

A very foolish conclusion. Even today, military personnel in many parts of the world are taught horse riding and swordsmanship during their training as part of military tradition and valour. Does that mean that they fight with these weapons? In a prophecy, weapons of the future are described in the nearest term understandable at that time. Similar terms had been used by Nostradamus too in his prophecies. And if you think that Kalki Puran mentions Kalki fighting with ancient weapons, how about this?

Soon they entered the city of Bishasan, the capital of Koli, and burnt down the city using fiery missile. Alongwith the city, Koli too was burnt and his sons and relatives were destroyed.
~ Kalki Purana, III[7], Verses 9 & 10

.This island (Sinhala) is situated on the other side of the shore. The island has pure water and is full of people. Full of various types of Aircrafts and decorated with jewellery. The beauty of the island is enhanced by huge buildings and flags and gates decorated in front of them
This shows kalki will use aircrafts….now Muhammed used anything like that???????
~ Kalki Purana, II[1], Verses 39, 40, 41

This island (Sinhala) is situated on the other side of the shore. The island has pure water and is full of people. Full of various types of Aircrafts and decorated with jewellery. The beauty of the island is enhanced by huge buildings and flags and gates decorated in front of them
This shows kalki will use aircrafts….now Muhammed used anything like that???????
~ Kalki Purana, II[1], Verses 39, 40, 41

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DEATH OF KALKI AVTAR'S PARENTS
Kalki Avtar's Father will die before his birth and his Mother will die after few years of his birth. (Kalki Puran, Bhaghwat Puran Khand 12)

These two indications clearly fit on Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). His Father died few days earlier of his birth and his Mother died when Muhammad was only six year old. For reference please study the life history of prophet Muhammad (PBUH).
Well no wonder that is a co incident that i agree to but wat do say if I ask that how many children in this world have to bear the same misfortune are they all kalki n muhammad.

KALKI AVTAR WILL GET WISDOM ON A MOUNTAIN
According to Kalki Puran, the Kalki Avtar will receive wisdom or knowledge on a mountain's cave from PERSHURAM (angle).

As every one knows that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was busy in his pray in a cave of mountain "HIRA" and there one day an Angle (Gabriel) appeared and brought the first revelation from God. For reference Holy Quran (96:1) "Read (Prophet Muhammad) with the name of Allah" and he replied " I am not learned" the same indication was given in the Christian's scripture (Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12) " and the book delivered to him that is not learned, saying " Read this", I pray thee: and he said, I am not learned", this is another prove of his prophecy. So prophet Muhammad received his first revelation in the cave of mountain HIRA. And this prediction also fit on him.

He wud get his wisdom on mount himalayas n hindukush .

Where did u run to hira bro?

kalki and Parashuram will meet at a mountain! Not in a cave! (Where Pro mo smoked what he sold!)

Parshuram is not an angel but a immortal brahmin with the axe any how if Gabriel is parshuram then where is gabriels axe brother may i know? to fit it u say truth as axe its a mere bull ****. The Purana says no such thing like a cave or some thing . Hindus believe that the Kalki Avatar is a god [Vishnu] who has been reincarnated 10 times and not a mere messenger. Muhammad claimed to be a messenger and would have been grossly offended by the suggestion that he was the incarnation of a Pagan god. There is a huge difference between the concept of Propethood in Islam and the concept of the Avatar in Hinduism and one cannot impose an Islamic meaning on a Hindu title. Kalki was taught by his “Guru” Parashu ram in the “Mahendra” mountain. Nowhere is it said in Kalki Puran that his Guru was a messenger of God. ParashurRam lived on a mountain – but nowhere is it mentioned that either he or Kalki lived in a cave.

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SPLITTING OF MOON
According to the scripture Kalki Avtaar will split the moon.

No reference of this in any puran veda or upnishad who told u this ??????

ANGELS WILL HELP HIM DURING WAR
Kalki Avtar will be helped by angels during war. (Kalki Puran Adhay 2, Shloka 7)

This prediction also fit on prophet Muhammad (PBUH), when during the battle of UHAD, BADR etc. God sent His Angels for his help. For reference see Holy Quran (3:123,124,125) "And Allah must assuredly helped you at Badr when you were mortified, therefore fear Allah, in order that you will give thanks to Him. When you said to the believers, is it not enough for you that your Lord should reinforce you with three thousand (3,000) angels sent down upon you? Rather, if you have patience and cautions, and they suddenly come against you, your Lord will reinforce you with five thousand (5,000) angles"

Holy Quran (9:25) " Allah has helped you on many a battlefield ..."

Well but how can i believe on quran wen its not the word of god i wonder they arnt satan. The Kalki Avatar has, according to the Purana, "irresistible might" and is divine ["character of Brahma"]. Therefore, he does not need divine help, he provides divine help.

KALKI AVTAR WILL BE THE LAST AVTAR
There are 24 main Prophet, but Kalki Avtar will be the last one, who will be the end (seal) of all Prophets. (Bhagwat Puran Partham Khand Adhay 3, Shloka 25)

No Prophet except Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) has declared him as the last Prophet and it is the faith of every Muslim that Prophet Muhammad is the last Prophet and no Prophet will come after him. God Himself declared Muhammad (PBUH) as the last Prophet. For reference see (Holy Quran 33.40) " he (Muhammad) is the messenger of Allah and the Seal of Prophets, and Allah is aware of all things .." and in another place God says, " .. This day I have perfected your religion for you and completed my favor to you. I have approved Islam to be your religion ..." (5.3)

Another interesting thing is that, in the Holy Quran there are 25 Prophets mentioned by name including Prophet Ahmed (Muhammad) himself, so there were 24 main Prophets before Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). So these two predictions also fit on Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)

The Vishnu Purana does not say that the Kalki Avatar will be the last messenger. check out the correct verse from here http://www.vedpuran.com/download.asp .

25. Thereafter, at the conjunction of two yugas, the Lord of the creation will take His birth as the Kalki incarnation and become the son of Visnu Yasa. At this time the rulers of the earth will have degenerated into plunderers.
26. O brahmanas, the incarnations of the Lord are innumerable, like rivulets flowing from inexhaustible sources of water

[Bhagavatam, Pratham Khand, adhyay 3, shlokas 25/26]

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This Purana does say that the Kalki Avatar:

Exists of his own spiritual nature in the character of Brahma
Is the beginning and the end
Comprehends all things
Will be born as Kalki in the family of an eminent Brahmin of Sambhala village
Will be endowed with the eight superhuman faculties

None of these descriptions apply to Muhammad.

Secondly The age of Kali-yuga is said to start from the year 3102 BC, after the disappearance of Lord Krishna. Finally, after 432,000 years from the beginning of the age of Kali, Lord Kalki will appear as the twenty-second incarnation of God.

So Muhammad came a bit early if he wud have been late he wud surely have been kalki.

A FLYING HORSE FROM GOD

He will receive a flying horse from God, which will be faster than lightning. Riding it he will go around earth and seven skies" (Bhagwat Puran Khand 12, Adhay 2, Shloka19-20)

This prediction is about Kalki Avtar also match with the Incidence of "MIRAJ" For reference see Holy Quran (17.1) and for detail Hadith s of prophet Muhammad (PBUH) regarding Incidence of Miraj. According to these references Prophet Muhammad traveled the seven skies and there he met with previous Prophets, and for this God gave him a horse name BARQ which mean lightning and word Miraj mean height and ladder. Please study life history of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) for details.

Muhammad never traveled the whole world, he was reported to have traveled to the "farthest Masjid", although, according to Ibn Ishaq's Sirat Rasulullah, Muhammad's wife Aishah claimed that his body never left the bed that night. Incidentally, this story [the Miraj] is very similar to the story of Zoroaster's ascent into the seven heavens on a mythical beast called a "Gryphon".

"In the religious books of Hindus, it is mentioned that the staple food of Kalki Avatar would be dates and olives and he would be the most honest and truthful person in the region. Without any doubt the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) is acclaimed to possess these qualities."

Every avtar of God is true and honest. That’s not the sole prerogative of Prophet Mohammed. As for Kalki living on olive and dates, this is completely fictitious. In fact in Kalki Purana Chapter III[17], Verse 43, Kalki and his wife is shown to have been feasting on rice, curd and other milk products.

CONCLUSION

Muhammad is Muhammad and Kalki is Kalki

They both are DIFFERENT as it has been Proved above.

THANX

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Prophet Muhammad or Demon Mahamad?

Original Sanskrit Version
Bhavishya Puran: Prati Sarg: Part III:3,3 5-27

This is the text of pratisarg 1 2 3

mahamadh ithi khayat, shishya-sakha-samniviyath 5

....... mahadev marusthal nivasinam.

mahadevthe snanya-pya punch-gavua samnivithya

tripurarsur-nashav bahu-maya pravathiney 7

malech-dharma shav shudhaya sat-chit-anandaya swarupye,

thva ma hei kinkare vidhii sharanaghatham 8

sooth uchav: ithi shurthiya sthav deva shabadh-mah nupaya tam,

gath-vaya bhojraj-ney mahakhaleshwar-sthale 9

malech-shu dhu****a bhumi-vahika nam-vishritha

arya dharma hi nav-vathra vahike desh-darunya 10

vamu-vatra maha-mayi yo-sav dagdho myaa pura

tripuro bali-daithyane pro****h punaragath 11

ayoni sa varo math prasava daithyo-vrudhan

mahamadh ithi khayath , paishacha-kruthi thathpar 12

nagathvaya thvya bhup paisachae desh-vartake

math prasadhayane bhupal tav shudhii prajayathe 13

thi shruthva nupshav svadesha-napu maragmath

mahamadh toi sdhav sindhu-thir mupaye-yav 14

uchav bhupati premane mahamadh-virshad

tva deva maharaja das-tva magath 15

mamo-chit sabhu jiya-dhatha tatpashya bho nup

ithi shruthya ththa hata para vismaya-magath16

malechdhano mathi-shasi-tatsaya bhupasaya darutho17

tucha tva kalidas-sthu rusha praah mahamadham

maya-thei nirmithi dhutharya nush-mohan-hethvei 18

hanishyami-duravara vahik purusha-dhamum

ityak va sa jidh shrimanava-raja-tathpar 19

japthya dush-sah-trayach tah-sahansh juhav sa

bhasm mutva sa mayavi malech-dev-tva-magath 20

maybhithashtu tachya-shyaa desh vahii-kamayuuah

guhitva svaguro-bhasm madaheen tva-magatham 21

swapiit tav bhu-ghyot-thro-shrumadh-tathpara

madaheen puro jath thosha trith sayam smurthaum 22

rathri sa dev-roop-shav bahu-maya-virshad

paisacha deha-marathaya bhojraj hi so trivith23

arya-dharmo hei to raja-sarvoutham smurth

ishapraya karinayami paishacha dharma darunbhu24

linga-chedri shikhaheen shamshu dhaari sa dhushak

yukhalapi sarva bhakshi bhavishyat jano maum25

vina kaul cha pashav-thosha bhakshava matha maum

muslanav sanskar kushariv bhavishyat 26

tasman-musal-vanto hi jathiyo dharma dhushika

ithi pishacha-dharma mya kruth

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Translation

[From the third part of the Pratisarga Parva.]

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Shri Suta Gosvami said: In the dynasty of king Shalivahana, there were ten kings who went to the heavenly planets after ruling for over 500 years. Then gradually the morality declined on the earth. At that time Bhojaraja was the tenth of the kings on the earth. When he saw that the moral law of conduct was declining he went to conquer all the directions of his country with ten-thousand soldiers commanded by Kalidasa. He crossed the river Sindhu and conquered over the gandharas, mlecchas, shakas, kasmiris, naravas and sathas. Crossing the Sindhu, he conquered the ‘Mlencch’ in Gandhar and the ‘Shath’ in Kashmir. King Bhoj grabbed their treasure and then punished them.
In the mean time, an illusory mlencch named Mahamadh arrived with his preceptor (acharya) and his disciples to him. King Bhoj worshiped the idol of Lord Mahadev in the Marusthal (land of deserts). He bathed Lord Shiva with Ganges water and worshipped him in his mind with pancagavya (milk, ghee, yoghurt, cow dung, and cow urine) and sandalwood paste, etc. After he offered some prayers and pleased him.King Bhoj prayed to Lord Mahadev, “O Girijanath who stays in the marusthal (land of deserts), I offer my prayers to you. You have forced maya to destroy Tripurasur; but the mlencchs are worshiping you. You are pure and sacchidanand swaroop. I am your sevak. I have come under your protection.”

Suta Goswami said: After hearing the king’s prayers, Lord Shiva said: Let the King go to Mahakaleshwar (Ujjain). O King, the land where you are standing, that is popular by the name of Bahik (Baltic), has been polluted by the mlencchs. In that terrible country there no longer exists dharma. There was a mystic demon named Tripura(Tripurasura), whom I have already burnt to ashes, he has come again by the order of Bali. He has no origin but he achieved a benediction from me. His name is Mahamada(Muhammad) and his deeds are like that of a ghost. Therefore, O king, you should not go to this land of the evil ghost. By my mercy your intelligence will be purified. Hearing this the king came back to his country and Mahamada(Muhammad) came with them to the bank of the river Sindhu. He was expert in expanding illusion, so he said to the king very pleasingly: O great king, your god has become my servant. Just see, as he eats my remnants, so I will show you. The king became surprised when he saw this just before them. Then in anger Kalidasa rebuked Mahamada(Muhammad) “O rascal, you have created an illusion to bewilder the king, I will kill you, you are the lowest..."

That city is known as their site of pilgrimage, a place which was Madina or free from intoxication. Having a form of a ghost (Bhuta), the expert illusionist Mahamada(Muhammad) appeared at night in front of king Bhojaraja and said: O king, your religion is of course known as the best religion among all. Still I am going to establish a terrible and demoniac religion by the order of the Lord . The symptoms of my followers will be that they first of all will cut their genitals, have no shikha, but having beard, be wicked, make noise loudly and eat everything. They should eat animals without performing any rituals. This is my opinion. They will perform purificatory act with the musala or a pestle as you purify your things with kusha. Therefore, they will be known as musalman, the corrupters of religion. Thus the demoniac religion will be founded by me. After having heard all this the king came back to his palace and that ghost(Muhammad) went back to his place.

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The intelligent king, Bhojaraj established the language of Sanskrit in three varnas - the brahmanas, kshatriyas and vaisyas - and for the shudras he established prakrita-bhasha, the ordinary language spoken by common men. After ruling his kingdom for 50 years, he went to the heavenly planet. The moral laws established by him were honored even by the demigods. The arya-varta, the pious land is situated between Vindhyacala and Himacala or the mountains known as Vindhya and Himalaya. The Aryans reside there, but varna-sankaras reside on the lower part of Vindhya. The musalman people were kept on the other side of the river Sindhu.

On the island of Barbara, Tusha and many others also the followers of Isamsiha were also situated as they were managed by a king or demigods.

Tripurasura's Past life

Tripurasur was the son of Sage Gritsamad. One day the sage sneezed and from this was created a young boy who the Sage brought up as his own son. The sage taught the boy the Ganana Twam, Ganesh Mantra. Equipped with this mantra the boy meditated intensely on Lord Ganesh who ultimately blessed him. He was given three pura-s of gold silver and iron. Since he was the owner of these three pura-s he was given the name Tripur. Ganesh also bestowed on Tripur to be the most powerful, who none but Lord Shiva himself could destroy and after being destroyed by Lord Shiva he would attain mukti-salvation.

This boon made Tripur proud and he brought havoc in the entire world. He conquered the Nether world and then proceeded to takeover Heaven. He defeated Indra the king of heaven. His aggression made Lord Brahma hide in a lotus and Lord Vishnu in the Shirsagar. He soon also took over Lord Shiva’s Kailash Parvat and thus became the King of all the three worlds. The gods wondered on how to vanquish Tripurasur. Lord Narada told them that, since he had been granted a boon by Lord Ganesh himself it would be very difficult to vanquish him. He advised them to meditate on Lord Ganesh. Pleased Lord Ganesh decided to help the Gods.

Disguised as brahmin he visited Tripurasur and told him that he was a very enlightened Brahmin and could make for him three flying planes. Riding these he woud be able to go anywhere he wished within minutes. The planes could only be destroyed by Shiva.In return Lord Ganesh asked him to get him the statue of Chintamani which was at the Kailash Mountain. Lord Shiva refused to give the statue to Tripurasur’s messenger. The angry Tripurasur himself went to get the statue. A fierce battle started between him and Lord Shiva. He destroyed everything that belonged to the Lord Shiva who too retired to the Girikandar.

Lord Shiva too realized that he was unable to destroy Tripurasur because he had not paid his respects to Lord Ganesh. He recited the Shadaakshar Mantra to invoke Ganesh. On doing so from his mouth emerged Gajanan to grant Shiva a boon. Shiva continued his invocation of Ganesh who ultimately directed him on how Tripurasur could be killed. Lord Shiva was asked to recite the Sahastranam and then direct an arrow at the three pura-s of Tripurasur.

Lord Shiva followed these instructions and finally vanquished Tripurasur.

The place where Lord Shiva invoked Lord Ganesh he also created a temple for him. The town surrounding this temple was called Manipur. The village Ranjangaon is considered to be the place where Lord Shiva himself sought the blessings of Ganesh and ultimately destroyed Tripurasur.

Mahamada (Incarnation of Tripurasura the demon) = Dharmadushika (Polluter of righteousness)

Religion founded by Mahamada = Paisachyadharama (demoniac religion